Editors Preface-

The Continuing Saga of

The Christmas Island Coup De’ Tat

Greetings one and all from Christmas Island! Much has transpired since last we engaged in colloquy. Indeed, Porthos, Athos, Aramis, and I (d’Artagnan); have been labouring quite hard on our suntans here on Flying Fish Beach by day and of course plotting, scheming, carousing, and imbibing some of the finest libations ever concocted this side of the Large Magellanic Cloud, at the Bore’s Head Pub (which is the de facto seat of power since the initial revolt). Our economy is doing quite well based largely on the export of music, art, literature, crabs, and beer. Yes, Bore’s Head Pub beer has been discovered to not only be one of the finest beverages available but it can be used in place of petroleum to fuel automobiles with no alterations whatsoever! It has no caustic emissions, and its’ only downside seems to be that your vehicle will let out an occasional belch. Our top scientists are shown here hard at work on the next batch.

( Who is that man overseeing the beer production? Why it’s none other than Cardinal de Richelieu who has decided to cease being an adversary of The Musketeers. Monseigneur le Cardinal has even promised to contribute to propellertalk, and is often seen swashbuckling on the beach with Milady de Winter. (He keeps a low profile for now, but look for an article on this blog soon.)
It’s great to see so many of our friends propelling themselves to our island each day. Why just yesterday whilst crawling home from the Bore’s Head, Aramis spotted a ship on the horizon. It approached Flying Fish harbor under topsails, jib, and spinnaker. It was the Pharaon and it ran aground just a few yards from Flying Fish lighthouse (which is where the Musketeers have been hanging their plumed chapeaus when it is time for a little shut eye). Aramis observed the captain descending the stairs from the upper deck as he suddenly fell down all 3 sets of stairs and rolled down the gangplank. The resulting clangor was enough to wake the dead! “Yeah, what did you wake us up for?” said Athos as he and the rest of the Christmas Island Quadrilateral Commission spilled from their Hammocks. Porthos rushed to his aid. “Captain,” he said, ” did you miss a step?” “No,” said the captain, ” I’m pretty sure I hit every one! ” The captain was none other than Edmond Dantès who brought this article direct from the Isle of Elba to be published here on propellertalk. He also brought this top secret wax sealed envelope for the chef at the Bore’s Head Pub. (It’s contents are revealed here.) And now ladies and gentleman, without further sundry absurdities, may we introduce to you, our fellow Christmas Islander and guest writer, Captain Edmond Dantes aka “david_nwpa”!

Open Dialogue And Debate- Keeping It Honest

Politics and religion are two topics best left outside of bars and taverns. Generally, people tend to cling to like-minded individuals and often attack both messenger and message when bad news or ideas contrary to their own opinion are raised. Propeller is not a watering hole, which is good for me, because I come here to discuss both politics and religion. I realize not everyone agrees with my views, and that is good. Life would be incredibly boring if we all agreed.

 

 

Likewise, progress would not arise without someone, at some point, debating the topics of the day.

ARE YOU A MEMBER OF A COMMUNITY OR AN ELITIST CLUB?

Propeller, however, is a place where all should feel welcome to dialogue and debate openly. We should be more represntative of a Community than of an elitist club. Propeller includes individuals from all walks of life, who are passionately interested in a wide variety of topics, issues and personalities in a large number of countries. The perspective here is not solely limited to the United States; rather it is open to the world at large. Many of the opinions presented here are not necessarily those supported by the Bush administration or other domestic factions or even those of US allies. Yet we should, as a collective, also respect other people’s right to their opinion and their take on U.S. policies and laws.

With that frame of reference in mind, I would ask that as the political season continues, we seek to be civil to one another. We need to avoid three common fallacious arguments which neither prove our points nor uplift the site. Indeed, these three attack methods negatively impact and demean one’s point of view.

1. Ad hominem arguments. These name-calling tactics serve little purpose other than to attack the messenger and avoid addressing the topic. Name-calling is a tactic which belongs on the playground of 8 year-olds rather than within a political arena which is focussed on civil discourse.

2. Reductio ad absurdum. These arguments offer little new evidence and serve scant purpose other than to diminish the impact of the opinion being offered. For example, no ACTUAL “slippery slope” is encountered on the route to expanding marriage rights to gay couples. Some might expand this type of argument to suggest that if two men or two women can marry, then why shouldn’t three men, two cows, a desk, and a child all be married to one another? No one,  in reality, is suggesting that marriage should be opened to anyone other than  individual adults who can consciously consent. Cows, desks and children, according to these terms, cannot consent. The argument of the original premise has been reduced to utter absurdity.

3. The appeal to…. This type of argument appeals to fear, guilt, emotion, pre-supposed belief, or tradition. For example, I claim that something should be so because the (fill in the appropriate religious authority) said so. Alternatively, I claim that something is so because Dr. Eugene Smith said it is so. Perhaps, Dr. Eugene Smith is an expert in the field, but without any furtherevidence of that fact, his argument is moot.

These seem to be the three most common attack retorts one finds on Propeller. I am not suggesting that Propeller is alone in its struggle against logical fallacy. I suspect that Digg and other sites perpetuate similar problems. However, political discourse and persuasion regarding beliefs can have a profound influence on another individual’s life.

I would like encourage us all to avoid these three pitfalls and to concentrate on approaching one another with respect. I admit that I have been guilty of name calling and I know that I need to amend that behaviour. At this moment in time, if we do not work together to protect and nurture our community, this election and all the arguments related to it will render our community one ugly place until November has ended - and potentially leave bruises which last even longer..

Submitted respectfully,

david_nwpa

If you happened to be watching the tracker on Propeller last night, you would have noticed quite a milestone. At 10:09 PM EST the story count rolled over into a 7th digit as the 1 millionth story was submitted.

And what a story! A rare piece of good news in a bad-news-driven media:

Is Lipstick Giving Women Bigger Boobs?

British breasts are getting bigger. In less than 10 years the average bra size has grown from a 34B to 36C. Xeno-oestrogens are chemicals from pesticides or plastics that mimic the effect of oestrogen and are fat-soluble so store themselves in the body. Many products, from lipsticks to tampons to spermicides, contain xeno-oestrogens.

Happy day! Big ups to the submitter, zombieking97 (a new user who registered just yesterday), for helping us reach this milestone.

Assimilated Press- Flying Fish Cove, Christmas Island, Feb.5^th 2008 -

A source close to a taxi driver who knows someone who knows Britney Spears, reports that 4 men wearing plumed hats and sporting imperial moustaches arrived last week in a prop plane. They have since organized a coup and are now in charge of the island. Calling themselves the Quadrilateral Commission, they are known to brandish their steel when provoked by trolls, sock puppets, or cyber-flamers. Using both sharp wit and blade they soundly defeated Rod B. Aikin, the mayor of Flying Fish Cove, in a rousing bit of brisk swashbuckling, general intemperance, and dashing swordplay (which also later led, to a game of darts at the “Bore’s Neck� (a nearby pub) where the mayor again was soundly defeated . The Commission has effectively replaced all other government agencies.

The Quadrilateral Commission has annexed the entire island and declared it an independent sovereign nation, no longer a possession of Australia, nor residing in the same plane of existence as the rest of the world. The entire population of 1,497 people supported the revolution including former Mayor Rod B Aikin; who, technically led the insurrection by casting the first stone against himself in a nationally televised stupor. “He picked up a large chunk of feldspar and serendipitously whacked himself unconscious� said Lance Yerbuti, the general manager of WDIM, the island’s only television station which broadcast the event.

Propellertalk’s foreign correspondent, Dick Hertz, interviewed the members of the quadrilateral commission but unfortunately he speaks only Swahili and no one on Christmas Island understood a word he said. There is some indication that certain cabinet posts have already been filled.

Surgeon General- Dr. Frank N. Stein of the Stein Institute of male enhancement.

Secretary of Static- Nikola Tesla

Secretary of the Treasury- Buenaventura Durruti

Secretary of Defects- Ken Coates

Atony General- Judge Judy

Secretary of the Inferior- Mr. Ranger

Secretary of Counterculture- Tad Daley

Secretary of Commercialism- Mr. Whipple

Secretary of Labor- Tom Joad

Secretary of Transmutation- Paulo Coelho

Education Secretary- the Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso

Unfilled cabinet positions include:

Stealth and Hoarded Services -Dept. of Lethargy- Veterinary Affairs- and Homeland Stupidity

The Commission has issued a few edicts, one claiming that the new national language will be a form of Sanskrit. The other decries that there is no wearing of tidy whitey shorts, all citizens must wear their underwear on the outside of their clothing so that agents of change can check. (in honor of Esposito in Woody Allen’s film ‘Bananas’ [sings rebel song] Rebels are we, / Born to be free, / just like the fish in the sea!)

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COMMENTS:

MrSpudskull-

I didn’t read the article but I heard there was a war on Christmas. Apparently this is the eastern front. I am for war. Everyone who isn’t is against the troops and should not be allowed to breathe. I don’t think “The Simpsons” is very funny but I watch it because that Flanders fellow knows what he is talking about. Personally I’m a pro-lifer and support the death penalty. I spent Martin Luther King day re-reading “the Bell Curve” and I bury my money in coffee cans in my backyard. Right next to my victims.

Radiofreeeuropa -

Er, uh, Right… I usually don’t respond to posters who may be serial killers. I believe this is a good policy. As for the article, though they do seem to have the support of the islanders, I question the 100 % figure. Surely there are some who oppose this coup. It sounds as if all you need to do to effectively rule Christmas island is buy a few rounds at the “Bore’s Head” and show people your sword.

2facedtroll-

We Christmas Islanders are for shavng the heads of all conservatives. We will write “property of Hillary Clinton” with special liberal indelible marker right on your heads. Then we will have abortions and gay marriages in your living room. Then when your not looking we will take your wallet and give it to the government so they can pay welfare mothers to train for careers in prostitution . {he, he, he, this is fun! I’m really Sean Hannity drumming up some extra division and segmentation because my career in media is heavily invested in this type of subterfuge, but these clowns will never suspect… they are OWNED! ho, ho, ho! How’s my Exxon Mobil stock doing there boy?}.

Bkumm-

A “troll” is someone who posts contentious and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages with the intent of baiting other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion. There are many different kinds. This troll is also a “sock puppet” or false identity. 2facedtrollster is pretending to be a member of group A but is really in group B. He then sabotages group A by posting outrageous comments as a member of A to anger group B. He hopes to start a “flame war” or emotionally charged series of exchanges between group A and group B. Obviously it doesn’t have to be political. It could be anything that people take pro or con positions about.

Halitosis -

Those moonbat liberal islanders are ruining all the slogans. Huck Manatee promised to buy them all a shot of Holy Water, but do they take him up on it? No! instead they follow those codless pinkos. Look at those appointments! Why every Ann Coulter loving American knows Mr. Ranger is pro’lly in cahoots with Al Gore to take away my right to indiscriminately belch fumes from my 20 cylinder SUV and generally dump toxins wherever I choose! God is on my side! (How can I suck up to Mark Jamus this week?) That quadraphonic commission accepted emails from known subscribers to Rolling Stone which means they are corrupted by evil and maybe even left handed!

Radiofreeeuropa-

What does Christmas Island have to do with “Ann Coulter loving Americans”? How does this address whether or not anyone on the island opposes the coup? Mr. Ranger is a fictitious cartoon character, (as are quite a few commenters on the Propeller site - members previously banned, resurrected as new cartoon characters to continue their mischief, or extract revenge.) We also have numerous fallacies here. There is nothing in the statement or the article that associates the islanders with “liberal” politics. This is the irrelevant fallacy. This commonly employed fallacy make use of premises which are logically irrelevant to the conclusion. Propellertalk recommends simply pointing this out when you encounter this on threads. “Your comment is not relevant to the discussion”.

annoying1-

Radio you are trying to interfere with perfectly good propaganda which is of course something only Godless communist puppy hating spawns of Satan would do. It’s Clint Billton’s fault.

Gamahuche-

Ah yes, the Ad Hominem Argument! This is quite common on the threads. Rather than discuss the article or the comment, the commenter or the writer of the article is personally insulted. A commenter who can only make their case by attacking others seldom has a case to begin with. The correct way to evaluate the merits of a position is by looking at what the argument says, not by distracting people’s attention from the argument by insulting the person and then, unreasonably, concluding that your insult is a good reason to dismiss the argument. Propellertalk recommends that when you encounter this type of discussion on a thread that you point it out. “Annoyingsockpuppet, your ad hominem attack does nothing to support your argument”.

I.B.Indenial-

The Universe is only 10,000 years old. This is a fact because it says so in the bible.

Radiofreeeuropa-

That is tangential from the article we are discussing but if the universe is 10,000 years old; how is it we observe light from stars billions of light years away? Claiming the Bible as an authority is a red herring or “genetic fallacy”. It cites origins or history of an idea as precisely accurate which is not necessarily so. It is fallacious to either endorse or condemn an idea based on its past—rather than on its present either in a positive or a negative sense, unless its past in some way affects its value in the present . For instance, the origin of evidence could be relevant in its evaluation, especially in historical investigations. The origin of testimony—whether first hand, hearsay, or rumor—carries weight in evaluating it. The Bible is hearsay at best as an authority, it is not fact. Rather it is a testimony that may or may not be so. It is not an accepted premise in itself.

This is called hijacking a thread. Injecting an irrelevant topic into a discussion. This is generally frowned upon by most Propeller inhabitants. I just made the mistake of replying to the poster which aids in hijacking the thread. A better response would likely be “Do not try to hijack the thread please.”
I.M.Hating

Those ******* are destroying everything. They and their *** friends are bad.

Gamahuche-

We encounter many forms of predjudice, bigotry, and unwarranted hatred on the internet. It’s not always as blatant as I.M.Hating’s post.

FinkratAzzclown-

Clint Billton got a lube job at a service station on Christmas Island! I hate Christmas Island! We shoulda’ kept nuking that place, if we had, there wouldn’t be any people there to support the coup. Rob Patertson has spoken to a major deity who knows Paris Hilton and this deity wants all patriotic Australians to place an embargo on all goods from Christmas Island, assassinate the leaders, and to send him as much cash as possible. All people with mustaches are drug addicts. These despots have moustaches. They are drug addicts! Let someone without a moustache take over instead of these drug addicts.

Radiofreeeuropa-

Mr. Azzclown, Your premise that all people with mustaches are drug addicts is false. Frank Zappa, Teddy Roosevelt, and Martin Luther King all had moustaches, and none were drug addicts. Rush Limbaugh is devoid of moustache yet he is a known drug addict.

FinkratAzzclown-

I will gouge your eyeballs out and use them for golf balls.

spambot-

Visit my crappy site about crap and get viruses, worms and trojans for free! www.visitmycrappysite

Sockpuppet2-

The Quadrilateral Commission are agents of the Israeli government who are for killing puppies.

Neophile-

Even if you were correct in claiming they wanted to kill puppies, what makes you think they work for the Israeli Government?

Sockpuppet2-

Everyone except me and Sockpuppet 1 works for the Israeli government , and I’m not so sure about Sockpuppet 1.

Sockpuppet1

Yeah.

walterdizzy-

To cast the Christmas Island Coup as a solely private moral question,…is to lose touch with common sense: How human beings treat one another is practically the definition of a public moral matter. Of course, there are many private aspects of human relations, but the question whether one group of human beings should be allowed to take over the political reigns of another by out-drinking them is not one of them. This coup is an inescapably public matter.

Neophile-

Walterdizzy’s comment seems reasonable on the surface yet it is an example of circular logic. The conclusion occurs as one of the premises. More generally, an argument is circular when it assumes any controversial point not conceded by the other side. Propellertalk recommends simply that circular arguments be recognized as such.

Troll1-

Global warming caused Al Gore! Mexicans caused the holocaust! Glass is Metal! Canadians caused world war 2!

Bkumm-

In online forums, the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore him or her, because responding encourages a troll to continue disruptive posts so “Please do not feed the trolls”.

Rascal123

Wha da fa? Dem newfangled commissioners on Christmas Island R ‘gainst duh Butch administration. You know Osamer Been Lacky isa jest applaudin’ dem. Dey are Been Lacky Lubbers. Yup.

Bkumm-

Rascal, aside from providing us an authentic example of linguistic gibberish, has also provided another fallacy. The red herring fallacy known as guilt by association. By merely verbally associating the new commissioners of Christmas Island with “Osamer” he is attempting to discredit them. There is no validity to this type of argument whatsoever. Where did the claim that the Quadrilateral Commission was against the Butch administration come from? This does not even merit being called hearsay. Respond to these types of arguments by labeling them what they are. Rubbish.

Modusoperandi-

According to the American historian Robert Paxton, Francisco Franco was “a pathological hostility to democracy, liberalism, secularism, Marxism and especially to freemasonry” . Franco came to power via a coup ‘d tat. The quadrilateral commission also came to power via a coup ‘d tat. So the quadrilateral commission is a pathological hostility to democracy, liberalism, secularism, Marxism and especially to freemasonry!

Radiofreeeuropa-

Modusoperandi has made a leap of logic that is not necessarily so. Can you spot it? This is known as a false or weak analogy.

A is like B.
B has property P.
Therefore, A has property P.

This is not necessarily so.

DARKROVER-

RFE IS TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND TURN IT INTO SATANLAND!!!! HE IS SOME KIND OF MONSTER AND HIS FRIENDS ALL SMELL BAD! I HATE THEM ALL! WE THE GOOD PEOPLE WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO SMELL THE PLACE UP EVER! GO BACK TO **** YOU ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gamahuche-

Ah yes the shouter. When one has nothing reasonable to add to a discussion but wishes to throw some ad hominems and epithets around it’s best to do so as LOUDLY AS POSSIBLE!!! This behavior is completely annoying.

nosfera2-

My position is superior. You suck. You are a leech and some kind of walking dead flesh eating zombie. I will cut and paste opinions of very skeptical origins for numerous posts in a row making it appear as if I am an expert yet I actually have given no thought whatsoever to the subject at hand. I merely parrot and accuse others of possessing my own traits. Put down that crucifix!

Concernedtroll-

I LIKE Dick Cheney, I REALLY do. Congress should proceed with impeachment so all these accusations of collusion with oil companies and Haliburton, which are clearly nonsense, can be laid to rest. Allowing the evil Whig media to continue to talk about this without being able to hear Mr. Cheney’s explanation is bad for his poor little heart. Let those wombat wahoo winkers who are obviously hoagiehonkers expose themselves as the rotundifolious liberian traders they are!

Neophile-

A concern troll is a pseudonym used by a user whose point of view is opposite the one that the user’s sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll attempts to sway a group’s opinions while claiming to share their goals, pretending to be “concerned”. They attempt to plant fear, uncertainty or doubt among a group. We have a few regulars on Propeller that poke fun of this type of troll by being very obvious about it in a humorous way. So not all trolling is a detriment to a site.
A famous example of a concern troll is when in 2006, a top staffer working for incumbent Congressman Charlie Bass (R-NH) was caught posing as a “concerned” supporter of Bass’s opponent, Democrat, Paul Hodes on numerous liberal New Hampshire blogs, using the pseudonyms “IndieNH” or “IndyNH.” “IndyNH”. He expressed concern that Democrats might just be wasting their time or money on Hodes, because Bass was unbeatable. Bass ended up losing the election and some theorize that deception may have backfired on the perpetrators.

Schizoidman-

Aghh I’m scared. If we don’t give up our freedoms and privacy then government won’t protect us! We must give up freedom in order to secure freedom! The Quadrilateral Commission will not stop at Christmas Island, next they will take North America. Aghhh! We must attack Easter Island and any other island with a Christian holiday in it’s name! If we don’t the boogiemen will surely get us. Aghhh!

Bkumm-

At least Schizoidman’s comment is not off topic. However it is an appeal to emotion. This is a type of argument which attempts to arouse the emotions of its audience in order to gain acceptance of its conclusion. An argument from fear is often a ruse . It is possible that the argument is plausible, but more evidence of plausibility is needed, not simply blind fear and speculation.

Lusus Naturae-

I have lived here on Christmas Island all my life and I tell you the atom bomb tests have had no effect whatsoever. This coup ‘d tat has had even less effect. I woke up with a fever yesterday. There was a coup. My fever caused the coup.

Radiofreeeuropa-

Lusus Naturae has demonstrated yet another breach of logic. Confusing cause and effect. A happened and B happened afterwards. B was caused by A. Have you heard this before? There was a storm last night, I noticed the barometer dropped. The storm caused the barometer to drop. (A drop in atmospheric pressure actually caused both.)

Mr.GoonMalefactor

According to experts on talk radio shows, these insurrectionists on Christmas Island have attempted to buy Duncan Heinz Yellow Cake mix. We must nuke them before they nuke us. If your not with us your against us and God is on our side. Only a rotten no good atheist would appoint the Dalai Lama to a cabinet post. Everyone must believe that God exists. After all, if you do not accept the existence of God, then you will face the horrors of hell.”

Bkumm-

Thanks Mr.GoonMalefactor for demonstrating yet another common fallacy we find on the threads to our readers. The appeal to fear. Y is presented (a claim that is intended to produce fear). Therefore claim X is true (a claim that is generally, but need not be, related to Y in some manner) This line of “reasoning” is fallacious because creating fear in people does not constitute evidence for a claim. Think of all the problems, wars, and bad policies that could have been avoided if people only applied some critical thinking skills to the “reason” of politicians and leaders.

wahoo0u812-

He, He, there ain’t no global warmin’. I don’ care what these boiz on Christmas Island say. Global warmin’ is jes’ silly.

Neophile-

The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence, this line of “reasoning” has the following form: X, (which is some form of ridicule) is presented therefore claim C is false. This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because mocking a claim does not show that it is false.

Hodinkerfud-

Modusoperandi is a no good ******* and so is that ********* Neophile. They are both **** and ******.

Gamahuche-

Well, Hodinkerfud; neither I nor any readers have any idea whatsoever what you are saying nor why. What we do know is that gratuitous personal attacks are of no value to anyone. Thanks for your contribution! We almost forgot about pointless name-calling. It’s never a good argument for whatever your position is.

Hodinkerfud-

Gamahuche is trying to censor me, he is a ***** and his uncle is a ******* god**** hoser. I tell ya those ******* Canadians aren’t real Americans! They eat **** ! I call Canadian bacon “Freedom Bacon”! And the Canadian Rockies are the Freedom Rockies! Look there goes some freedom geese!

Radiofreeeuropa -

Um, …right.

How do I loathe thee, let me count the ways...

Here is a fine example of daftness. Close one eye and scratch your head. There is not much to say about comments this inane. Have a laugh at the expense of the poster. I’m guessing Hodinkerfud doesn’t enjoy Molson ale.

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POSTLOG

So what is this all about? We started with a (hopefully) entertaining fictitious article. Then a (hopefully) entertaining fictitious thread of comments in which we presented some common fallacies of logic that are often seen on the site. Are we attempting to censor anyone? No! Certainly that is not at all the intention. As always, the editors of propellertalk wish only to to offer information or stimulate the conversation on various aspects of the Propeller site. We might make recommendations or suggestions, but the object is to initiate discourse on the subject at hand within the community itself. The bottom line of this article is avoiding logical fallacy and employing some critical thinking skills generally improves the site (though one might take some delight in laughing at some of the obvious fatuity). If you express yourself in a manner that is both sound and valid from a logic stance, your position will be strong. If you instead use fallacy, your position will be weak. Expect to be exposed by members of the community if you prefer fallacy. Of course, other than the propellertalk editors, any similarity to persons alive or dead is purely coincidental. (apologies in advance if there are any green, single horned, fanged cyclops who are offended by Hodinkerfud.)

The Guide To Efficient Self Propulsion

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I’m Eagle Eye or EE, after reading one of Propellertalk’s threads I noticed a comment regarding the possibility of adding a female touch to the group. I chirped up and offered some of my estrogen so here is my first attempt at blogging on the net (eagle blushing).

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When posting a comment think about how you will sound, WE HATE IT WHEN YOU TYPE IN ALL CAPS that is considered yelling and offensive. Personally I find it hard to read so I skip over it. You can use caps on a WORD for emphasis, but please refrain from shouting on a thread. Also making racist, sexist or bigoted type remarks are unacceptable to the community so just remember before you hit that submit button to be sure this is what you want to say.

There are times that things are posted that we don’t agree with, and there are times things that get posted don’t mean what we think they do. Please, before attacking a poster ask them questions about what they said to make sure you understand it. That creates less grief in the community when posters have spats and long thread fights. That interrupts the flow of the thread and ruins the experience for all users.

Each comment has a row of buttons along the bottom for you to rate that comment: good, bad, block or report. Some times it’s fun to throw a few bread crumbs to the trolls, but in the end you learn not to feed them too much, if they are bothersome to you I suggest you just hit the block button and you will never see that users comment again unless you choose to view it.

There are many different methods of computer short hand since you want to get a lot into a little space, one is the abbreviation of phrases such as “LOL� laugh out loud, “LMAO�; laugh my azz off; “LOLIFOTCAHMA�; laugh out loud I fell of the chair and hurt my azz; and mine is LOLILATF, laugh out loud I lost another tail feather, after time you will learn the abbreviations.

You can also make clever and cute different happy faces with letters and symbols:

<:-)

I hope you find this helpful with your start on Propeller and feel free to ask questions, most of the time you will get reasonable and intelligent answers, but don’t believe every thing you read.

Looking forward to seeing you propel yourself on to Propeller ;>

(Do you see the Saxophone player or is it a womans face?)

Many “hate”posts are one thing masquerading as something else. (Conversely the artist might not have intended any Saxophones in the picture at all.) It’s best to carefully consider what the intent is, before lending your support to, or raising your indignation about a submission!

While it is true, the World Wide Web is an extraordinary bastion for the principals of free speech and the free exchange of ideas it can also be a breeding ground for hate and groups who seek to spread it. Shockingly, these types of sites are on the rise in recent times. It’s a razor’s edge that divides the issue of free speech from lurid racism and bigotry.

This is a serious problem. On one hand, I personally am opposed to censorship. On the other, hate groups like Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church have certainly caused suffering and harm.

You simply can not have freedom of speech without giving it to others. People, even those who only seek to spread ignorance and hate, must have their right to speak. After all, it is never an issue to grant free speech to someone you agree with, it is granting that right to someone who opposes your personal views that is more difficult to come to terms with.

However we have no obligation to listen. I suggest as a Propeller member, if you view a post that promotes hatred, first recognize it for what it is …futile, worthless, and ignorant. Do not vote for it, sink it. Many sites submitted fly just below the radar by substituting slightly more “politically correct� terminology for obvious epithets. Yet in the end, a particular race, group of people, or religion is demonized as a source of all the problems in the universe. What I believe is the best approach is simply to minimize the volume of the voice of hate through community unity. If you agree with me that every human life is equally valuable, that hatred erodes our humanity, then do not patronize hate filled submissions. Don’t vote, don’t encourage, and if your so inclined, sink it. If you feel it obviously and seriously violates the terms of use, report it. If you don’t recall the Propeller terms of use, here they are as expressed on the site:

You may use Propeller.com for lawful purposes only. You may not submit, offer links from, or transmit through Propeller.com any material, or otherwise engage in any conduct that: violates or infringes the rights of others including, without limitation, patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, publicity or other proprietary rights; is unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libelous, deceptive, fraudulent, obscene, pornographic, invasive of another’s privacy, tortious, or contains explicit or graphic descriptions, or accounts of, sexual acts; victimizes, harasses, degrades, or intimidates an individual or group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, or disability;
impersonates any person, business or entity, including our employees and agents; contains viruses or any other computer code, files or programs that interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment, or otherwise permit the unauthorized use of a computer or computer network;
encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, or that gives rise to civil liability; offers, promotes or encourages betting or wagering prohibited by law; violates these Terms of Use, guidelines or any policy posted on Propeller.com, or interferes with the use of Propeller.com by others. You may not use Propeller.com in a way that could damage or impair our servers or networks. You may not interfere with any other party’s use and enjoyment of Propeller.com. You may not attempt to gain unauthorized access to our services, user accounts, computer systems or networks. We may take any legal and technical remedies to prevent the violation of these Terms of Use.

Of particular interest to this article is: “victimizes, harasses, degrades, or intimidates an individual or group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, or disability.â€� I don’t believe the large majority of members want knee-jerk (ooch!…My chin!) political correctness nor do they condone true gloating bigotry.

Special Comic Relief Section….

• Q. How many racists does it take to change a light bulb?
• A. 100 …. 1 to change the bulb and 99 to deny that the bulb is being changed.

• Q. What do you call a Muslim who flies a plane?
  
• A. ….A pilot!

• Q. How many Blacks does it take to change a lightbulb?
• A. …One

• A Rabbi, A Priest, and an Atheist walk into a bar………. Ouch!

….End comic relief

Some join the site for mischief, using site names that insult or degrade others. (This bears no similarity to a good natured jest). Some clearly state in their bios they are here to harass and denigrate. Still others are obsessed with hate and hijack every thread they post on with unrelated ranting. I recommend simply ignoring them. As in all these cases nothing pleases the perpetrators more than knowing they were effective cyber bullies. Propeller has enjoyed far less of this than other sites of this nature, together we can keep it that way. Shall we?

It is the expressed view of this site that many improvements and complaints can be addressed through the community itself , rather than expecting management to do it for us. Think carefully before giving an article your support. Is it hateful? Do you really want to participate in disseminating the article if it is? The community has it’s own inherent power to help or hinder any submission.

One for all, All for one!

(none for racism.)

Sincerely,

d’Artagnan

I have become somewhat of an authority on the boorish art of racial epithets and ethnic slurs from my participation on Propeller and that dubious distinction is by no means anything to boast about. Nonetheless, it is a fact. Having reviewed other competing forums on the web, I must acknowledge that Propeller’s share of bigoted commentary fortunately does not compare. Hate-filled dialogue characteristic to these other “socialâ€� blog sites is rampant and for the most part, it goes unchecked. To conclude, however, that personal harassment and abusive comments directed at Propeller’s members is not harmful and potentially threatening to our community as a whole would be a mistake.

Since my participation commenced at Propeller (and Netscape), I have observed an improvement in how management confronts those who consistently violate the rights of others. Nevertheless, there are those — and always will be those, who learn how to violate the spirit of the rules of conduct without risking penalty. So it is ultimately up to us — or should I say it is up to me to learn how to cope with these characters. I think it would also be beneficial for each of us to ask ourselves the question: “how do I handle personal attacks?â€�

“Not so good!â€� I must sometimes admit. To correct my reactions to the scurrilous attacks of a few requires vigilance and humility. Unfortunately, I am not overly endowed with the latter virtue. Yet, there are those times that I can respectfully communicate my disapproval, release the hurt, and remain on center. There are also those rare times that I do not reply — that I simply bury the hurt and anger and must wait to expunge its unpleasant effects. During those episodes, I can easily react unfavorably to even the best-intentioned comments.

Recently, during the dialogue on a thread from a story that I posted entitled “Anti-Semitism, A Dead Issue� I sustained the usual personal attacks from my small fan club and then misinterpreted a perfectly innocent comment. Regrettably, I proceeded to lambaste that person. It was days later when I realized that I had made this mistake. An apology should be a sincere attempt to correct a wrong and to make it right. I blasted this poor soul openly on the thread and to privately send him a personal message does not cut it.

Permit me the liberty of using this forum to convey my apologies to BoxMonkey for misconstruing the following remark.

This is not new news [ anti-semitism ] . In Ridgewood a communitty that borders Queens and Brooklyn, there are many Jewish cemetaries that have been vandalized throughout the years. Tombstones that date back to the 1800’s. Anti-semitism is alive in all communities I’ve visited . Most recently exploited in that movie ” Borat ” . And although the Jews get the most attention when the word Holocaust is used , let’s not forget the Armenians , Kurds , Somalians and many other religious or nationalities that have faced similiar consequences that are not publisized by the press .

For failing to cope with abusive remarks from a few other participants on the thread, I completely misunderstood his commentary. “This is not new news.â€� Under normal conditions, I would understand that remark. Yet at that moment, it sounded to me like a criticism and then I anticipated another insensitive or callous remark to follow. In addition, I read the words, “And although the Jews get the most attention…â€� my defenses went up. “Here come the stereotypes“, I muttered to myself. My ability to read the comment objectively evaporated on the spot. I hope this truthful explanation and apology will be accepted. If I could take back my criticisms of his remarks I would.

Have you ever lashed out and displaced frustration by attacking an innocent participant on Propeller? Well, I have done it more times than I care to admit. How do we cope with our own shortcomings and mistakes when they hurt others? Do we care enough about the other member to apologize or do we forget about them and just move on? I have seen enough members leave Propeller simply because they could not cope with their own mistakes or the persistent harassment from other members. I believe the best thing we can do when any of us reach that jumping off place is to share it with someone you can trust. That never fails for me.

Most of us enjoy exchanging controversial ideas without dialogue riddled with personal attacks. In cyberspace, even on Propeller, we encounter those who only want to hurt and disrupt. Coping with these disruptive influences takes some of us practice. It does for me. Rest assured, there will be those who give us more than enough opportunity to learn.

For anyone submitting contentious stories, such as topics on radical Christian fundamentalism, to not expect passionate debate would be foolish. Most Propeller heads have routinely witnessed malicious personal attacks that accompany these stimulating discussions.

Coping with bigotry, racism, and anti-Semitic remarks can sometimes be a painful experience. For the most part, when I recognize that I am a member of a community with many allies that share my distaste for this kind of conduct, I can maintain a more even temper. To all my friends, I must extend my gratitude to them for expressing their views and for not remaining silent in the presence of these unpleasant demonstrations. It is a testament to the best of our community to acknowledge that these members make up the vast majority. Having witnessed other communities disintegrate because of rampant displays of racism, oppressive misogyny, and anti-Semitism, I think it is imperative for those of us who value the freedom that we have on Propeller, to do what we can to protect it. When we treat others with the respect and dignity that we all deserve, we make Propeller a safe and fun place to share important ideas.

A new site (Propellertalk) that will act as an ongoing forum for and about the Propeller social news site has successfully launched it’s first series of articles. Feedback has been both brisk and very positive. The maiden voyage has enjoyed a pleasant turbulence free flight in fair weather. We are pleased our first offering has been well received by the community. This has been a personally rewarding triumph for those of us involved with the launch.

The Propellertalk site is manned by:

• Brandon Kumm -Pilot (editor and writer)
• aka Bkumm
• Michal P. - Bombardier (editor and writer)
• aka Gamahuche
• Benjamin New - Flight Surgeon (editor and writer)
• aka Radiofreeeuropa
• Derek van Vliet -Navigator (editor and technical advisory)
• aka Neophile

Propellertalk will be adding material and features in the future with the expressed goal of being both a supplement and enhancement to propeller.com. See our mission statement here. Michal has referred to us in his most recent post as 4 musketeers. The motto “all for one and one for all” would indeed seem to reflect the intent of this web site and perhaps the 4 of us personally as well.

All for one -we honor the individual as a valuable asset yet distinctly separate ingredient in the stock pot of our community.

One for all - our individual efforts combined are greater than the sum of the parts. Wheels within wheels. Like the Universe itself, a series of nesting spheres.

Part 3: THE JOY OF BLOGGING

Preamble:

After the great pieces by RFE and Bkumm and the lively and very friendly discussion they engendered I had some trepidation about coming on last till I realised that the last act has to be the starring one and then I REALLY got stagefright and the Universe started to create obstacles - a train home which broke down - that was a first in this country - fatigue, persons and dogs desirous of company and time and pleasure. And then procrastination…

At my boarding school in England I was the one who didn’t START writing till the last deadline was past and I had received special dispensation to complete by MIDNIGHT. But midnight would be when I started because I knew they wouldn’t look in the mailbox till 7 a.m. By midnight we were already locked down of course and any visible light would create catastrophe, including a whacking. So I would grope downstairs in the dark, hide in a cupboard with no windows, breathlessly write like a fiend of the night, one giant gobful of breathless prose, barely paragraphed - of course no computers, no re-writes, no corrections - and win prizes. Like the “Lamb Essay Prize” [Charles Lamb, “Lamb’s Tales from Shakespeare” was a former pupil and the “house” that I lived in was also named after him], for an essay written by a hundred kids in one great hall, under exam conditions, which also created that “just do it” atmosphere. The title “I would rather be a square peg than fit in a pigeon-hole”. So that’s gamahuche’s MO and if you give me deadlines I’ll test them and if I give myself deadlines I mostly ignore them.
Plaudits for RFE, Bkumm and Neo and YOU!!:

(see The Launch Of Propellertalk)

I could simply say: “I agree with almost EVERYTHING that my virtual colleagues said. Didn’t they do well? Let’s give them a big hand!! And you were a TERRIFIC audience! Thank you all for coming to the show and please tell your friends!” Make a bow, acknowledge the applause and simply step out of the limelight [my 15 mins - fortunately at my advanced age one can EXPECT a second or third helping] and wait for all the rumoured fabulous changes at propeller to occur. The sock-puppets to get socked, the spammers to scuttle back into their underground holes like roaches when the light’s turned on, and for all of you wise and intelligent Propeller-ites to look over your shoulders EVERY time you even THINK of voting on a story blindly or on an “I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine basis”. [Knowing that the FOUR musketeers, including the so-far invisible but for us very significant colleague and technical wizard, neophile, are looking over your every vote and recording every incident of deviance in our little black book..] Not! - but sometimes I’m surprised by the perpetrators!…

However:

I would kick myself if I didn’t make the most of this moment!

“I have a dream” has already been taken and “Change” is too nebulous a concept to run on here, so I’ll start with describing the genesis [sink opportunity, RD!] of this collaboration of ours. Conception was on a thread of Spadecaller’s, from about 2 weeks ago: “Stereotypes and Prejudices at Propeller.com”, a MASSIVE thread (181 votes and 594 comments), filed in full here with the actual labour and birth on the thread starting precisely here.

The infant initiative “No Content = No Vote” [baptised by Bkumm] was born swiftly, very much alive and kicking, with four fathers but alas, so far motherless.

Yes that IS an invitation! Female input is needed, required and desired - and definitely NOT for taking out the empties; we’ll use some sock-puppet “volunteers” for that. Do I see any socks in the air?

And then to the creation of a nice CLEAN blog-site - so far without any offers for breast-implants for robots - which is beautifully and patiently managed by neo, with the knowledge, but not the connivance of the Propeller.com powers-that-be, and to this series of articles. Access to the blog is available to you, gentle reader, as a facility to discuss all issues relevant to propeller and our use and experience of it. You’ll find it at propellertalk.com

We are NOT a faction of politically correct clones or busybodies or seeking to promote any other agenda than the “Joy of Blogging” and all the ways in which that can be protected, supported, enhanced, nourished and cherished.

We will invite creative and informational input from the Propeller management and staff but we are not beholden to them or anybody else, nor for sale at any price. [Well a few million and a quick getaway to a secret computer-free destination MIGHT create some temptation..Hint for EXTREMELY wealthy sock-puppet-masters - I LOVE islands, esp. ones that come with boats!]

Re relations with “Head Office” I have had nothing but good experience and some very nice unsolicited feedback, even when I’ve erroneously got my knickers in a twist through a miscomprehension. Yesterday to Bkumm’s thread one whom I had never encountered before (Shay) posted the following:

“I’m with you on this and, IMO, this story and the feedback it’s getting is what makes propeller such an awesome site. You only see real members commenting right now because we real members are the ones who care for this site and where. And I hope that everyone here will advice of the article and leave adolescent behavior for myspace and facebook.”

I could not agree more, especially about the “real members” aspect! Where were the “others” last night and on RFE’s thread? At the very end of last night one did appear - one that I’m not familiar with, who made a short pitch which provoked perhaps the only neg on the thread, apart from Bkumm’s inadvertent neg of RFE! [sheesh - with friends like these who needs enemies :)]

We four [so far] PUG’s [propeller user’s group - NOT pug-nacious b**tards, nor to be confused with re-pugs] do all know each other, only virtually, so far; we definitely all respect each other; personally speaking, especially since a lot of my “work” work is solitary [not as in confinement, nor as night-guard at the municipal parking-lot] so working with colleagues like these has been a joy for me.

We are also a varied bunch in terms of geography, life-experience, interests but I believe I can speak for all of us in saying that we all share the desire for propeller to be a safe, healthy and above all interesting and entertaining environment because we want to hang out here, make friends, and ESPECIALLY natter about almost anything under the sun and till the cows come home and write hideously turgid prose full of mixed-metaphors and wild non-sequiturs and purple passages of alarming shades.

Well that’s my take and I must admit to not having authority to represent all of us on the precise details. Dark beer or light? Can I say BOTH, guys?

Anyway they’ll have their chance in a while when this gets posted and they can descend like vultures and pick the carcass of my effort to pieces. As can you! I already know the time of the slow train to Siberia. It hasn’t changed since Communist days. BORING it must not be! nor dominated by one kind of thinking or any kind of political correctness.
Lively debate, rapier-like wit, sense and empathy, tolerance and acceptance are all highly encouraged. Antagonism and hostility are not to be frowned on but creative put-downs are so much more elegant and potent than the “that’s horsecrap” variety.

The rules that Propeller already has should be respected because by becoming a member one is contractually agreeing to abide by those rules. And those laws of human intercourse are valuable. Even virtual corpses need proper burial and I’ve seen a very few instances of virtual assassination..
Commercial Break:

[btw the following happened a while ago and has now disappeared - sorry to disappoint you]
OH MY GOD! I just flipped to the prop front page and the top story as of this moment is
“NEW HOT !! dana jacobson sex tapee” [sic]
posted by the redoutable
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assisted by his friends:
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Sunk, so far, by me and Oscar, with whom I seldom agree but who posted some wonderfully moving posts about eagles a while ago..
Oh and my inbox just offered me a weight loss program.
Enough said..

Or perhaps I should end with the words which a good friend in London, an anarchist, dope-smoking and very respectable -seeming MD, put on a banner outside his house at election time: DON’T VOTE: DON’T ENCOURAGE THEM. THEM as far as Propellertalk is concerned means the people who don’t contribute anything TO Propeller except mawkish or misbegotten or half-baked junk or plain bs. with the sole purpose of personal financial gain.

P.S.:

Votes are free, votes are easy, votes cost you nothing but remember that whenever you vote for garbage the jewel of your being shines less brightly. We want you here in all your humanity; the time that you waste in voting for people who could care less about you removes you from the very community in which you have chosen to be. A virtual fight with your Propeller nemesis is more worthy than surrendering to the blandishments of the people who vote and virtually NEVER comment!

Thanks for your time! Thanks for being here!

If you love it or hate it let us know and lets look forward to some great stories, some great discussions and some great friendships.

Let me tell you about a typical day for me in the wonderful world of cyberspace.

After my morning walk (the last exercise I’ll get all day), I turn on my computer and check my e-mail. Do you love spam? I know I do. I especially like the hour or so it takes me each morning to go through my e-mail and delete the messages I get that tell me I can have a bigger penis or that bignipples26 wants to be my friend on MySpace or that for just $199 a week I too can learn how to make money off the Internet. Sure I can. All I have to do is get a couple of bozos to send me $199 a week for a list of e-mail addresses and I’m set.

Better is when I go to Propeller and find that my PM box is full of messages from people begging me for votes on such salient topics as, “How to make your beer cold in five seconds or less!� and “Naked Jessica Alba Pictures!! HOT!!�. Now, I don’t know about you, but I need cold beer in five seconds or less. Planning ahead to have cold beer or just putting the beer in the freezer and waiting fifteen minutes isn’t going to cut it. I need it cold NOW!!! And while I wait that five seconds, I can spend some time ogling Jessica Alba. Thankfully, there are a couple of stories right there on the front page of Propeller that will give me what I need and I can vote for them too. Good for me!

Then of course, there are the fifty or so messages I get each day from people I’ve never even heard of with such great screen-names as, “Pleasevoteformystory123� and “Nocontent54�. These are my favorite, because all I have to do is vote for them and my latest submission, “How To Get A Story To The Front Page Of Propeller� will get votes out the wazoo. “Nocontent54� is sure to vote for my story if I’ll just vote for his. Ah, the wonderful world of reciprocal voting.

By this time, I’ve been on the computer for two hours and have accomplished basically nothing except to go through my messages from my e-mail and Propeller. Now, I can get down to the serious business of reading all of the fantastic content in the stories that I’ve voted for, commenting on them and generally enjoying the camaraderie that I’ve come to enjoy and expect on Propeller.

But, I start to get down a little after I check out “Nocontent54’s� submission. It sounds like a great submission, which is why I voted for it. I mean, who doesn’t want to be informed about great pictures of Bill Smith’s back yard. It’s something that has always fascinated me, so I’m on my way to the story to check it out. When I get there, though, I notice something strange. First of all, there’s only one picture of Mr. Smith’s back yard and it’s not even a good one. If I want to see an old beat up pick-up on blocks I’ll look in my own back yard. And really, there isn’t a second of all because the rest of the site is nothing more than banner ads, Google ads and links to more sites which I’m sure have similar fantastic content.

Well, now I’m starting to get pissed, but I persevere, noting that my great submission about getting a story to the Front Page of Propeller is picking up votes from all kinds of people, like “BannerAdsBoy� and “AdSenseRocks� so, in an effort to be nice and share the love, I dutifully check out their submissions, after voting for them. Surprisingly, “BannerAdsBoy’s� submission about “Fantastic New Bras� is a five page ad for his? new bra line. I figure I’ll have better luck at “AdSenseRocks’s� site. I mean, how could we go wrong with a submission like, “Funny Duck Pictures�? Well, we can. I get to the site and it’s ONE funny duck picture and six pages of AdSense ads about ducks and duck related items. Really.

Okay, that’s it. Now its lunch time and time for me to give my aching voting finger a rest. So, I make a sandwich and fortify myself with Coke for the afternoon. So far, it hasn’t been a great day on Propeller, but the afternoon submissions have to be better and with all of the voting I’ve been doing for my “friends� I’m sure to have a ton of votes for my submission as well.

Back on the computer after a twenty minute break and I’ve already got fifteen new e-mails informing me that if I’ll help Mr. Ongo’s widow get the money from his estate in Nigeria by simply handing over my social security number, my home phone number, my bank account information and passwords, I’ll receive a portion of her $120 million inheritance and I can STILL get a bigger penis if I’ll just act now. All they want me to do is write my name and address on a piece of paper, throw it away and send $50 a month to an address. Sounds fine to me.

Back on Propeller, I’ve got ten new PM’s asking me to vote for really important submissions from my new friends, “SpamMakesMoney�, “NoContentAgain55� and “SockPuppetsforCash12�. I note that they’ve already voted for my story, which is now on the front page, so I vote for theirs. Fair is fair. But, the disappointment continues when I note that the total amount of content on their twelve submissions is less than this sentence. But, there are a ton of great ads!

Finally, I get down to the serious business of commenting on a submission about evolution from my friend EvolutionRocks, where I’m roundly attacked, vilified and submitted to accusations about everything from my character to the content of my mother’s boudoir. Fun times and really what I live for. I keep checking my submission and note that it’s climbing the Front Page faster than, “Bush Authorizes Military Junta For US, Elections Postponed�. Which is good, because who really cares about the Constitution anyway?

By this point, I’m starting to get a little worn out and I realize I forgot to put my beer in the refrigerator and so I follow the instructions from “How to get my beer cold…� And instead of waiting the required five seconds I wait almost TEN seconds, so my lips should freeze to the beer can, right? Wrong. Damn thing is still warm and the naked pictures of Jessica Alba turned out to be a couple of pictures from a movie she did showing her ass. Great.

Warm beer in hand, I spend the next couple of hours voting, commenting and checking out story after story, hoping that I can sift through the chaff to find an important story or two. By the time I’m ready for bed at midnight, I’m half pissed up on warm beer ( I keep forgetting to put them in the fridge and the stupid “Cold Beer� submission is a bust) but at the end of the night I note the stories on the Front Page before I head off to blissful oblivion.

News “How To Get A Story To The Front Page Of Propeller� (I ROCK)

Pets “Funny Duck Pictures�

Food “How to get your beer cold in five seconds or less!!!�

Celebrities “Naked Jessica Alba Pics. HOT!!!�

Science “Evolution Rocks�

Politics “Bush Authorizes Military Junta For US, Elections Postponed�

Celebrities “Bill Smith’s Backyard Pics�

Money “How AdSense Made Me a Million�

Religion “Jesus Loves Me, But He Can’t Stand You�

Do No Evil “Whitetail Deer Refuge�

Humor “Lost Parody�

Health and Fitness “Drink Beer and Lose Weight�

Gadgets and Tech “Microsoft GP-36×9kl$@@L Software Patchâ€�

Sports “Packers Win Pennant, Advance to World Cup�

News “Iraq War Ends�

Religion “Was St. Paul Real?�

Politics “Democrats Declare Victory in Canada�

Food “I Love Tomatoes�

Do No Evil “My Mommy Loves Me, Please Vote For My Story�

Autos “Cars That TALK!!!�

Money “No Content New Money Maker�

Family “Dale’s Backyard Weed�

Popular Videos “Loch Ness Monster and Big Foot Song�

Men “Want a Bigger Penis?�

Women “Why Women Want Men to Have a Bigger Penis�

Look, Propeller is currently one of the more respected social networking sites because of the great content that is available. It isn’t that we can’t or shouldn’t submit our own content to Propeller, but if we’re going to we should try and at least make it relevant and more than a couple of lines of content and five pages of ads.

This is meant to be funny and I hope it is. But, as a person who has been with Propeller from nearly the beginning I’ve noticed a substantial decline in the quality of submissions. And you know whose fault that is? Ours. The users of Propeller. It’s our community and if we want to keep it relevant we can’t let it turn into a place where spammers post garbage submissions with no content. If we don’t vote them up, they’ll go away. If they’re not making money, they’ll go away.

So, if you like a submission’s content (not just the headline) please vote for it. If you know a person or two that you can count on to submit good content, vote for them. But, as Propeller People let’s make a resolution this year that can be summed up in four words:

No Content = No Vote

NO CONTENT = NO VOTE

Don’t Be A Blind Voter!

Propeller is a unique social news network. Like any good community there is a great deal of diversity and though passionately held views are bantered about sometimes, the vast majority of comments remain amiable and tolerant. Ideas are debated and considered, though sometimes skirmishes flare up, for such a diverse community the majority seems able to freely express themselves without resorting to clawing, scratching, and personally attacking those with divergent views. Everyone posting here has a stake in the community, after all, if we didn’t like it we wouldn’t be here. Keeping Propeller a high quality social on line community is each of our responsibilities.

Newer members- the best way to have a great experience on Propeller is to participate in the threads, as you encounter people who post things you find interesting or commentary you enjoy, add them to your friends list. To keep the value of our community high, select your propeller friends based on a shared interest, respect for their submissions, or because you enjoy their comments. Please do not pick them randomly only to vote for your personal submissions. For instance if you post an article about Britney Spears don’t ask someone who never visits celebrity posts to vote for it unless you really think there is something in it that would interest them. This isn’t Digg. If you have a blog yourself, before you submit your blog as a story on propeller, please be sure it has enough content for members to bother with.

I get private messages every day from people I’ve never conversed with who ask if I will vote for their story. but when I look at their story it’s merely one or two sentences, or maybe a picture of a cat. This is not a credible submission. The blog is often loaded up with ads but little content. I love personal blogs, but some have nothing to say and are obviously attempts to garner some income through advertising, and nothing more. This is a type of spam.

On some social news sites, this may be an acceptable approach to getting traffic to your story.

It may be the norm. Our network of friends on propeller, at least in my experience usually is based on something more than “I voted for your story now vote for mine”. What has made Propeller different from other social sites is that it neither suffers from heavy handed editors-censorship; nor has it been overrun with trite articles voted up without consideration for content. Judging from my inbox, and the front page of late. This is changing.

Everyone- The front page has been having an awful lot of these “game” articles appearing with no content to speak of. A number of people are voting for articles without actually visiting the sites. Please consider your vote a recommendation, an endorsement of the article. If there is only a sentence on the blog, it is poorly constructed and loaded with ads, what does this say about your integrity? Look I’m guilty of this also, someone sends a recommendation about how to buy a watch, in an effort to be “friendly” I voted for it only to discover there was only a sentence written and a bunch of ads for watches, wrinkle removers, and penis enlargers.

I have voted for stories because there is an attractive photo of a pretty female as an avatar (It’s not unlikely the submitter is actually a balding old man in a mustard stained wife beater tee shirt guzzling beer). I was wrong to do this. It dilutes the strength of the community ’s merit. If enough people vote blindly, a picture of a cat becomes the top news story. I have vowed to stop this blind voting and I hope you will consider doing the same. We are not talking about any particular viewpoints, or subjects merely the lack of content. If for instance Mary812 sees some intriguing posts by Philmackracken 666, and decides to see what articles Phil voted on, will she find more stories of interest? Or spam and wasted space?

 

 

EE-YI EE-YI OH!
Old MacDonald had an ad farm…

I sincerely hope we all consider whether or not a submission is merely spam masquerading as an article. Anytime a valueless spam article makes the front page, the experience of everyone on our site is diminished. Not only that, but the success of one spammer encourages more.

A little thoughtful discretion will go a long way.

Help keep Propeller the best social news community on the internet! Be a good citizen.

Don’t enable spam and certainly don’t submit it!

Remember…No Content- No Vote !